Neki by PlanetScale

(neki.dev)

63 points | by handfuloflight 1 hour ago

11 comments

  • Atreiden 39 minutes ago
    The top concern I've gotten from dev teams when proposing HA distributed postgres (e.g through RDS Aurora global) is that eventual consistency is not suitable for many workloads.

    Does Neki solve for this, and if so how? My understanding of CAP theorem is that this basically requires some compromises around availability, but I'm curious as to what that looks like in practice here.

    • mcpherrinm 25 minutes ago
      Assuming it works the same way as their MySQL product, Vitess:

      The usual way to run it is that you partition your db based on something like a user, so that single user gets a consistent DB, but anything cross-shard may not be.

      I know when I worked at Block, Cashapp was using Vitess and getting cross-shard DB writes down and functioning correctly was one of the major blockers to adoption. (though I just did tls management for vitess and didn't write any workloads on top of it, so my impression might be a bit off)

      • ronfriedhaber 19 minutes ago
        Therefore, Consistency guarantees are based on implementing application-specific partitioning (correctly)?
  • erulabs 48 minutes ago
    I love to see this but as a heavy Vitess/MySQL user I do fear the split focus from PlanetScale. Hoping to see continued improvements on the Vitess side as well.

    Selfish doubts aside, congrats to Planetscale on the launch!

    • imjosh-dev 5 minutes ago
      don't worry, we still give a lot of love to vitess. at the end of the day they are both databases. the beauty of doing both is we can take learnings from each product and apply it to the other.
  • aamederen 14 minutes ago
    The first question came to my mind was, how would this compare against Citus.
  • vira28 40 minutes ago
    Obviously welcome more tools for Postgres and sharding but it’s a tough hill to climb against the hyper clouds. Best wishes to the team.
  • Hasz 27 minutes ago
    Independent of the product, love the branding design for this page.
  • phoenix24 12 minutes ago
    is this open-sourced?
  • vaibhav2614 1 hour ago
    Pretty exciting to see a sharded Postgres product in the market.

    The pitch is compelling. I wonder how many teams will be able to operate sharded database setups in production as a result of this.

  • benatkin 25 minutes ago
    The page matches their name, it's extreme hype. I finally figured out what I'm going to call them since their name doesn't sit well with me: PlummetScale.
  • ChrisArchitect 1 hour ago
  • ragall 1 hour ago
    I see no mention of foreign keys, or any other constraints, across shards. If, as I suspect, they're not implemented, it would still be useful but at the level of Spanner 10 years ago.
    • aabhay 1 hour ago
      Cross shard transactions are “coming soon”. So, this is just like having multiple postgres clusters.
      • spongeboi 1 hour ago
        Cross shard transactions are supported, but we don't have support for atomic 2pc cross shard transactions, its WIP
  • nicechianti 1 hour ago
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