Tell HN: Cloudflare silently injects its analytics when you switch nameservers

A few hours ago I switched my nameservers to Cloudflare in order to enable R2 bucket serving through my own subdomain, and I found out that it silently had injected a JS analytics snippet in my HTML-only JS-free site textlog.cc — I had to go to the Analytics dashboard, Add the site to the analytics and then disable the snippet. I find this approach entirely invasive, you should opt-in to features like that not have to opt-out. Just a warning out there to folks who might not be aware of this.

116 points | by stagas 2 hours ago

18 comments

  • Symbiote 0 minutes ago
    [delayed]
  • okzgn 4 minutes ago
    An alternative: <meta http-equiv="Content-Security-Policy" content="script-src 'self' https://only-scripts-allowed-from-here.com">

    This makes the client only load self-hosted scripts, or scripts only from the specified origins, among the other directives CSP allows (e.g. restricting styles, images, frames, etc.): https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Guides/CSP

  • dchest 1 hour ago
  • purpleidea 1 hour ago
    Yikes! I see this too:

    <script type="module" src="https://static.cloudflareinsights.com/beacon.min.js/v4513226..." integrity="sha512-ZE9pZaUXND66v380QUtch/5sE9tPFh2zg45pR2PB0CVkCtOREv2AJKkSidISWkysEuQ0EH8faUU5du78bx87UQ==" data-cf-beacon='{"version":"2024.11.0","token":"c0859b51a7804ab5a9cc8e9e2b2c4cde","r":1}' crossorigin="anonymous"></script>

    • kevincox 16 minutes ago
      Yup, I explicitly had all anaytics turned off. But had a few sites using Cloudflare for caching. Now I'm checking and seeing this on all of them. This is gross and unacceptable. "Caching" does not mean "modifying my site".
  • Animats 30 minutes ago
    > injected a JS analytics snippet in my HTML-only JS-free site textlog.cc

    Cloudflare injected hostile code into a site they are not even hosting? If it's HTTPS, how do they even do that?

    Does it violate the "exceeds authorized access" provision in the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act?

    • bawolff 17 minutes ago
      The most likely answer is the person accidentally enabled the cloudflare reverse proxy without understanding what they were doing.

      It seems incredibly unlikely cloudflare does this when just DNS hosting, if for no other reason then that this would break so many things.

      • stagas 15 minutes ago
        I can’t recall if there was a setting to enable reverse proxy, if there was it was On by default since I didn’t expect to have reverse proxy enabled as well. But you can also rp without injecting a script. That’s overdoing it.
    • Insimwytim 21 minutes ago
      > in order to enable R2 bucket serving through my own subdomain

      I suspect it happens somewhere here

    • Touchnow 6 minutes ago
      [dead]
  • celsoazevedo 1 hour ago
    Yes, they add the js if "web analytics" is enabled. I believe I had to manually enable it on my old sites though. Maybe it's enabled by default when adding new domains?
    • stagas 32 minutes ago
      No, I hadn’t enabled for any site. I had to enable first to turn it off.
  • outlines 32 minutes ago
    Are you using CF as a proxy or only for DNS? I ask because I just went to check my domains on the dashboard (some purchased a few years ago, one purchased just a couple days ago), and none of them have Web Analytics enabled.

    I have all my domains set to DNS only, so no CF proxy. Wondering if that is why?

    • stagas 31 minutes ago
      I just went and switched them to DNS only, they were on Proxy by default, that also should have been opt-in. Maybe I missed the option while switching the nameservers because I did it in a hurry but still.
      • TiredOfLife 8 minutes ago
        > that also should have been opt-in.

        The proxy is like 99% of why people use Cloudflare

        • stagas 2 minutes ago
          A simple screen when I did the switch that requires explicitly ‘Enable Proxy’ or ‘skip for now’ would have been enough. Also for ‘Enable Analytics’. None of these existed, or not very obvious otherwise I’d seen them.
  • ValentineC 1 hour ago
    Took me a minute to realise this isn't 1.1.1.1 (which Cloudflare also runs), but their original website DNS hosting service.
  • windexh8er 1 hour ago
    Isn't this well known when using CF as a proxy? Not sure how they would provide traffic / DDoS telemetry otherwise.
    • JoshTriplett 1 hour ago
      They're serving the HTML, they have every ability to track individual web requests without modifying the content they're serving.
      • sscaryterry 1 hour ago
        100% But this does not give you any useful personal data :)
        • JoshTriplett 1 hour ago
          Or data for the increasingly invasive Cloudflare captcha.
  • monitorion 17 minutes ago
    We use Cloudflare tunnels for connecting distributed workers to central infrastructure. Haven't seen this on tunnel traffic, but good to know it happens on nameserver-managed sites. Another reason to audit what your CDN injects — same applies to checking your security headers regularly.
  • BorisMelnik 1 hour ago
    yep, last website I did was JS free 100% except that pesky cloudflare script
  • minraws 1 hour ago
    Is there an opt-out mechanism at least? CF is burning goodwill in months it built over the last decade.
  • pudgywalsh 1 hour ago
    You left out the part about how you use them as a reverse proxy, which is decoupled from DNS. One is coincidental; the other required.

    If they can inject script, they can also snoop on all your cleartext traffic without you knowing....

    • stagas 46 minutes ago
      Oh gosh I didn’t enable anything like that also. I just wanted the nameservers in order to serve the bucket under my subdomain. What else is there I wonder?
      • stagas 34 minutes ago
        Ok to turn this off you go Domains → Overview → your.site → DNS → Records → then Edit each entry to DNS Only (gray cloud). MITM gone now (I hope).
    • johntash 1 hour ago
      Indeed. I have several domains using cf for dns only and they don't/can't inject anything into those sites.
  • csomar 1 hour ago
    To add to your experience: It was also very hard, for me, to find the setting that disables this JavaScript.
  • yogorenapan 34 minutes ago
    Noticed this the other day as well. Sketchy as fuck. I didn't have analytics enabled. I had to go and enable to get access to the option to turn this off
  • moktonar 1 hour ago
    Surprise! The man in the middle man-in-the-middles! This is only the beginning, when you’ll get used to this they’ll do worse and worse, enshittification, remember?
    • _def 1 hour ago
      If I wouldn't know it better I'd sometimes think some of the big tech shops are just fronts for centralizing the net.
      • LoganDark 49 minutes ago
        Cloudflare is doing this already. Once they had enough monopoly power, they started a program to block all bots that don't undergo invasive KYC procedures. Eventually, they might become a KYC broker for regular browser users too. The free internet is over.
        • sssilver 46 minutes ago
          #savetheinternet