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  • c3z_ 24 minutes ago
    great approach with dogfooding!

    the failure I hit most is not that the agent forgets, it is that it re-opens things the team already closed. So treating ruled-out paths as first-class is the right instinct

    quick question why mcp instead of cli tool? I'm mostly building the latter (less context burden), but help me understand your own ADR regarding this

    why not both?

    also after quick review on your doc I don't see where is ADR portal for humans? some plans for UX or this is inside git repo?

    • tcballard 13 minutes ago
      thanks!

      the mcp is a wrapper around the cli! You can run “rac explorer” if you have installed the extra: pip install 'rac-core[explorer]'

      in terms of UX, working on a couple of improvements there but wanted to validate the idea first and get the integrations with common platforms like GitHub sorted first!

      • c3z_ 2 minutes ago
        my 3 cents as I'm working on agentic CRM

        add rac steward to check and validate "quality" of ADR (freshness, completness, clarity, brewity, etc.)

        so expect your tool to help clean it's own database ;)

  • philbo 2 hours ago
    1. Write ADRs (or get agents to write them)

    2. Commit ADRs to git

    3. Mention ADRs in AGENTS.md

    • hahahaa 55 minutes ago
    • tcballard 2 hours ago
      I agree, that method might work if you are working solo or in a small team - but for organisations the ability to centrally manage and gate this sort of ruleset avoids drift.
      • Cthulhu_ 28 minutes ago
        You can manage ADRs centrally too, but you'll quickly need a dedicated sub-team / community / tribe / whatever to manage these thing.
    • mzhaase 1 hour ago
      I have been doing this to great effect and it's maybe five lines instructions total.
    • bitlad 1 hour ago
      Yup. This works.
  • kkapelon 29 minutes ago
    What exactly does rac validate do? How is it deterministic? Is there an example somewhere?
  • cisrockandroll 2 hours ago
    Bad timing either way epic games release
    • tcballard 2 hours ago
      Different beast — Epic's is version control, this grounds your agent in your team's decisions. Installs as rac either way, so the name's not load-bearing. But yeah, timing's a coincidence... just thought the name was cooler :D
      • slopinthebag 2 hours ago
        LLM generated comments go against site guidelines.
        • tcballard 2 hours ago
          I wrote this, I just spend enough time with LLMs to sound like one
          • watermarkhu 2 hours ago
            Yeah every same human would use m-dashes in their sentences — it just makes sense
            • jorisw 12 minutes ago
              Em-dashes predate LLMs and are legitimate punctuation. Are we going to ban/dismiss any pattern now that emerges from these things?
            • throw1234567891 1 hour ago
              I use em-dashes. Just get over the fucking thing. Wow, you're so money supermarket. And if you're going to use one to drive the point—use it correctly because you come across as an ignorant.
            • Cthulhu_ 23 minutes ago
              Use triple emdashes to look extra sane⸻like this.
            • tcballard 2 hours ago
              Regardless - the emdash predated LLMs … but that’s going way off topic!
              • croon 15 minutes ago
                > Regardless - the emdash predated LLMs … but that’s going way off topic!

                I'm too OCD to not point out this time it was a minus.

            • slopinthebag 1 hour ago
              It's not the em dashes, it's the sentence flow and the incorrect use of terms like "load-bearing".

              Also this user created an even newer account at the same time as posting this to drive engagement. /tinfoil-hat off

            • LoganDark 2 hours ago
              What? Em-dash is option-shift-hyphen on Mac... it's easy to use them. I used to use them. I even used to grab hair-spaces to place on either side of them, as one should (though that doesn't work on HN).
              • Cthulhu_ 24 minutes ago
                Yeah but a regular - is just a single button press, why would I learn this keyboard combination if I never learned how / when to use emdashes in the first place?
          • slopinthebag 1 hour ago
            Come on man, you did not. Your profile is full of LLM generated comments. If you're not a native English speaker I understand the motivation, but still...
            • okhobb 1 hour ago
              It seems naive to suppose you might get an LLM to admit it is one just in a HN comment exchange.
              • slopinthebag 1 hour ago
                The point isn't really to get it to admit to being an LLM, it's more that I don't want my favourite social media site which I value for the exchanges I have with other people to be overrun by bots. So I feel that pointing it out when it occurs can improve the overall discourse. Maybe I am naive in thinking that it would make a difference, but I'd rather be naive than to cynically resign in defeat. And perhaps in the long-term, open networks like this will lose the war. And at that point I will seek alternatives.
    • jorisw 10 minutes ago
      Be vaguer
  • alexmartos 3 hours ago
    How does this compare to CLAUDE.md and other Rules you can put in markdown?
    • etoxin 3 hours ago
      Or spec-driven AI development.
      • tcballard 2 hours ago
        Good questions! Lore isn't really competing with CLAUDE.md, it sits under it.

        A CLAUDE.md (or AGENTS.md, etc) is typically hand-written, untyped, and never checked. Nothing stops it from still telling the agent to do something you reversed six months ago, and nobody validates it in CI.

        Lore keeps the actual decisions/requirements/designs as typed Markdown in your repo, and rac export --agent-rules generates those rules files from the decisions that are currently Accepted — superseded ones drop out automatically. So the rules file becomes a build artifact of your knowledge base instead of something you hand-maintain and hope stays current. (Note that in dogfooding Lore that its repo does exactly that: its CLAUDE.md is a ~20-line router into the validated corpus)

        The part that makes it more than markdown-with-a-schema is write-time enforcement. rac validate / rac gate run in CI and fail the merge if an artifact is malformed, a link is broken or ambiguous, or anything points at a superseded decision. At serve time it's a read-only MCP server doing deterministic retrieval — the exact current decision by ID, not similarity-ranked guesses. No RAG, no embeddings, no model call to decide what's relevant.

        On spec-driven dev (Spec Kit, OpenSpec, Kiro): those drive a change — proposal → design → tasks → implementation, usually archived when the feature ships. Lore holds the durable why that outlives any single change and gets served to the agent on every session. It's the layer above SDD, not a replacement — you'd point a spec tool at the decisions Lore is enforcing.

        • kkkuuuuuu 50 minutes ago
          everyone in ur life hates when you send them this claude output garbage

          or am i the naive one, replying to a claudebot instance like its a human with thoughts and feelings that might care

          • tcballard 35 minutes ago
            I don’t follow - but appreciate the feedback, I’ll improve my comms about Lore / rac-core
        • isoprophlex 31 minutes ago
          Please stop posting this self-aggrandizing llm drivel, it makes HN a worse place for learning and interesting discussions

          You're either a bot, in which case piss off, or a bot-augmented human, in which case please tone down the bot augmentation and take the time to write less sloppy, more concise remarks

  • messh 1 hour ago
    Seems a bit similar to spec driven development. How does it differ?
    • tcballard 1 hour ago
      So the line shifts, but I see it as SDD manages the change (spec → tasks → ship, then archive it); Lore holds the durable decisions that every change after it has to respect.

      think of it as a layer above SDD and not a competitor, so basically you point your spec tool at the constraints Lore enforces.

  • brainless 2 hours ago
    I started building an app with similar goals but with the very different approach. I work on my own coding agent, https://github.com/brainless/nocodo, where I have been trying to build a provenance based engine that will generate or modify prompts to point to the decisions that a team has made. That work is in the branch: feature/praxis_agent_runtime

    While working on this I figured what if I build a proxy for coding agents - Claude Code, opencode, Codex, etc. support a proxy. This proxy would edit prompts and tool_calls and feed context from an internal index it will maintain. That index will contain git logs, GitHub/JIRA/etc tickets/epics, PRD or other documents, tech stack setup.

    It is just an idea and may not work but working at the proxy layer means this can be deployed at a team level, needs no MCP install and can re-shape prompts for everyone depending on the project. Wild idea perhaps.

    • tcballard 2 hours ago
      I think the proxy angle is genuinely appealing for the reasons you give: team-level, no per-dev install, reshape every agent's context from one place. We went down that exact fork and chose against it (wrote up the reasoning as an ADR if you want it). Instead of intercepting and rewriting prompts/tool_calls, Lore does context-supply + post-edit enforcement.

      Two things drove it:

      One, a proxy that silently rewrites what the agent sees is hard to audit so you can't review an injection that never lands anywhere, and when it misfires you're debugging an invisible middle layer. We wanted the injected context to be a file in the PR diff (a generated CLAUDE.md/rules file) and the rest to be explicit read tools the agent chooses to call.

      Two, and this is the part I'd flag for your index, the hard problem isn't delivery, it's knowing which decision is still current. An index built from git logs + tickets + PRDs is mostly stale or contradictory text; if a call got reversed six months ago, a fuzzy index will happily re-inject the old one. So that's where we spend the complexity budget: typed, human-reviewed decisions where "superseded" is enforced in CI, so the agent never gets handed a ruling you already overturned.

      Which is why I think these compose rather than compete. Your proxy is a delivery mechanism; it still needs a trustworthy source for "the decisions this team made." That's what Lore is, and it exports for exactly this — rac export --documents (JSONL) or --graph to feed an index, --agent-rules for the injection layer. Stay fuzzy and convenient at recall, point back at a deterministic source for the part that has to be exactly right. Keen to see where praxis_agent_runtime goes — provenance-first is the right instinct.

  • vshulcz 18 minutes ago
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  • tcballard 4 hours ago
    Author here! Coding agents kept reworking decisions we'd already settled - reviving an approach we ruled out in an ADR, redoing something a requirement already pinned. The context was in the repo; the agent had no current view of it.

    Lore serves your team's durable knowledge - requirements, decisions, designs, roadmaps, prompts - all as typed Markdown, read-only to Claude Code / Cursor over MCP, so the agent cites your decisions instead of contradicting them.

    The bet: retrieval is deterministic. No embeddings, no vector store, no model call to pick what's relevant — same query, same bytes, same result, offline. It's not a RAG competitor; it composes — recall fuzzily, then verify the EXACT, CURRENT decision in Lore (it declines the ones you've superseded). Runs in CI (rac validate / rac gate) too.

      pipx install rac-core
      rac quickstart
      claude mcp add lore -- rac mcp
    
    What it isn't: a search index, a memory layer, or an AI feature — the engine makes no LLM calls, no telemetry unless you opt in. Early, and my corpus is small, so I'd like to hear where deterministic grounding breaks down for you vs. where fuzzy recall is enough.

    (Lore is the product; the engine under it is RAC — Requirements as Code, the `rac` package.) Apache-2.0, typed.

    • vlindhol 53 minutes ago
      Hi! What I'm not quite getting from a cursory overview of the docs is how does RAC overlay overlapping decisions over each other? My mental model is a Docker overlay filesystem where RAC somehow manages to construct a cohesive view of the entire set of decisions over time, but how does that happen deterministically?

      Let's say ADR 1 specifies users are unique by e-mail and should be soft-deleted, and ADR 2 says users are unique by username. Will RAC pick up on the fact that users still need to be soft-deleted? Is there a lot of manual "reference ADR 1 from ADR 2" to help with determinism?

      • tcballard 36 minutes ago
        So rac doesn’t merge ADRs or infer that soft-deletes survive… supercession is managed by the status on one ADR saying Superseeded, and the other saying Supersedes. This is enforced by the CI pipelines you can use (GitHub, etc)

        I think your example is a bit more of a modelling question, and if soft-delete must outlive the uniqueness decision it should be its own requirement that’s persisted as RAC guarantees the graph stays consistent and current; it doesn’t guess which clause survives — that’s the users call.

        • vlindhol 13 minutes ago
          Gooot it, I was thinking there would be some merging happening, but that would be the task for an LLM I suppose :D Mental model fixed!
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