Terence Tao, at 8 years old (1984) [pdf]

(gwern.net)

150 points | by gurjeet 14 hours ago

13 comments

  • creamyhorror 1 hour ago
    Incredible. Knowing about Abelian groups, being able to graph y = x^3 — 2x^2 + x in one minute, and performing integration at age 7. Chomping up university-level math textbooks by 8. A classical math prodigy.

    I definitely empathize with "his preference for using an analytic, highly logical problem-solving strategy" (I'm not a genius ofc). It's often more immediately clear for me than visual/spatial manipulation.

  • chao- 1 hour ago
    This brings to mind the childhood of John Stuart Mill:

    - Learned Greek starting age three.

    - Was studying Plato at age six.

    - Studied Latin starting at age eight.

    And more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stuart_Mill#Biography

    I guess it helps that he had Jeremy Bentham hanging around his house from an early age.

  • quietthrow 4 minutes ago
    Genuine curiosity: if you are gifted with a certain “wiring” (genes, brain chemistry etc) why is that considered an accomplishment? Also - We, as a society, tend to celebrate people with “natural didn’t really need to work for” type gifts quite inconsistently - eg A supermodel who is gifted with the gift of looks, beauty etc is also in the same category of “natural” talent but sure doesn’t get the same celebration as a prodigy in maths or science. In both cases the people are fundamentally bestowed with abilities they didn’t really have to work extremely hard to acquire but are perhaps looked at differently. What’s kind of psychology is at play here? Would love to understand how we tend to interpret such things and then form beliefs.

    I realize and acknowledge both sets had talents and the spent thier time doing something with it to produce something extraordinary but we seem to tend to overlook the massive head start they also had. Why so?

    (Totally understandable if you feel like downvoting but I would ask you to articulate and share the cord it struck with you if you down vote)

  • svat 18 minutes ago
    Don't miss the program he wrote after teaching himself BASIC from a book at age six (Fig 5 / book page 222 / PDF page 10):

    > 320 print "(brmmmm-brmmmm-putt-putt-vraow-chatter-chatter bye mr. fibonacci!)"

    • nananana9 2 minutes ago
      This does feel like something a super smart alien pretending to be an 8 year old would write.
  • aurareturn 13 minutes ago
    I know it must be obvious but this proves to me that biological intelligence hasn't nearly reached its peak. People like Tao proves that if we select for pure intelligence, biological brains can get must smarter. Imagine if we had 5 million geniuses as smart or smarter than Tao doing quantum physics.

    In the books Dune, they banned computers so they bred super mentally capable humans.

    • jama211 9 minutes ago
      Not sure it works like that, I think his biggest superpower was intrinsic motivation. Any child who read maths textbooks with enthusiasm for 3-4 hours a day for years could in theory at least get close to doing what he did, but what kid had that level of motivation?
      • jonahx 1 minute ago
        > Any child who read maths textbooks with enthusiasm for 3-4 hours a day for years could in theory at least get close to doing what he did

        No, they couldn't. And neither could most adults, for that matter.

        Innate ability is real.

  • suprjami 19 minutes ago
    At 8 years old I was able to expertly dismantle many radios.

    Was still a few years away from reassembly.

  • markisus 1 hour ago
    This really reminded me of the first part Flowers for Algernon. The main character undergoes a treatment which improves is intelligence and the story is narrated via a series of diary entries which become successively more fluent and sophisticated.
    • LostMyLogin 51 minutes ago
      We had to read it in middle school and man did it have me in tears at the end.
    • jorl17 1 hour ago
      Had me in tears by the end. One of my favorite books. So glad a friend recommended it to me.
  • jama211 11 minutes ago
    Wow, incredible read! Amazing what motivated peple (and children!) can achieve.
  • TheChaplain 1 hour ago
    I am interested in his new book, "Six Math Essentials", but I doubt it will be on my very low level of math understanding..
  • elromulous 2 hours ago
    My brain initially parsed the title as an obituary title and I was really sad for a moment.
  • canadiantim 2 hours ago
    Interesting it's hosted on gwern...
  • jibal 1 hour ago
    Humbling.
    • markus_zhang 1 hour ago
      Indeed. He definitely knows more Math than I do.
  • sayamqazi 29 minutes ago
    I could have been just like him if I tried hard enough.