10 comments

  • lbhdc 1 day ago
    Isn't website hosting already decentralized? I can host my site on one of the many different providers out there, I can host my own, or even deploy to multiple providers. Users can access my site without extra steps.

    Why would I want to host my site on Nostr? What does it do better than the competition?

    As a side note, your demo isn't viewable without the extension. Trusting a new browser extension has a high level of friction. It would be nice if your site gave some hint of why a user might want to jump through those hoops.

    • karihass 1 day ago
      Nice observations

      1- Hosting site on one of the service providers doesn't mean centralization, ex. these week amazon outage, if you are going to deploy to multi-providers it will costs much, in our solution we offer you freedom of hosting on whatever relays you prefer many relays are public which means 0$ cost, moreover you able to expand your deployment on more relays as you want.

      2- You are definitely correct, We have just highlighted a small note in the landing page that end users need extension to access the website, to gain some trust we have published the extension to chrome and Firefox store so a code review is applied to ensure security.

      Really appreciate your feedback we can add more informative details in the landing page to show why end user need an extension, also we are planning to build a gateway so end user doesn't need to install extension in order to to access nostr websites "Frankly speaking we don't prefer this way in favor of decentralization and it is planned just for demonstration purposes"

      • immibis 1 day ago
        Isn't that the same as putting your website on many different public, free website hosts? Which don't really exist, for good reason.
        • iamnothere 22 hours ago
          It would be similar (except for discovery via pubkey), but as you said, there aren’t really that many free web hosts. So this is providing something unique.
          • immibis 15 hours ago
            They'll quickly stop providing it when someone uploads 100TB of illegal content.
            • iamnothere 12 hours ago
              They will just implement anti-spam/anti-CSAM measures as public relays do, or they will gate access based on web of trust or Lightning micropayments. Pretty much how Nostr works at present.
  • shrubble 1 day ago
    You should expect a lot of friction around having to install the extension; if you can figure out how to do it without the extension, it will lead to faster uptake.
  • RobGR 1 day ago
    In addition to the browser extension, you need a web proxy -- a bit of server side code that acts as the nostr client and gets the page, and displays it over ordinary http/https.

    Of course this means the existing web will find multiple URLs to the same content, if many people run the proxy, but that can be mitigated in various ways, or just ignored.

  • karel-3d 1 day ago
    Is nostr related to bitcoin?

    I always only see it with the same people that talk about bitcoin.

    • DavidHaerer 1 day ago
      Nostr has built-in support (NIP idk) for Bitcoin Lightning payments. Bitcoiners see Nostr doing to social media what Bitcoin did to fiat.
      • karel-3d 16 hours ago
        > Bitcoiners see Nostr doing to social media what Bitcoin did to fiat

        Well then social media has nothing to fear.

      • beefnugs 19 hours ago
        "support" being a loose long list of protocol features that are entirely optional. Each client or server can only do much simpler things if you want.
  • evbogue 1 day ago
    How does this handle changes to the website. Is the entire website re-uploaded to a Nostr relay, or is there some re-use of old material that's already been uploaded before?
    • DavidHaerer 1 day ago
      Nostr is append only, if an event is published to someone else's relay, you can't delete it.
      • evbogue 1 day ago
        oh yes, i get that about nostr. my question relates to updating the website.

        if i have 5 pages, which i publish to nostr using this tool, and then i make a small change to one of the pages, do i then need to create and publish the entire project again?

  • seanclayton 1 day ago
    > Nostr is an apolitical communication commons.

    Apolitical is starting to mean something rather political these days.

    • gigatree 1 day ago
      Only because those who make everything political take it as an offense. See also “silence is violence”.
  • verdverm 1 day ago
    > Each website is a collection of signed, verifiable Nostr events distributed across relays—so it can’t be taken down, censored, or lost.

    How does Nostr deal with illegal content like CSAM?

    • digitalbase 1 day ago
      • peaseagee 1 day ago
        The links you shared talk only about spam. They do not talk about illegal content like CSAM.
        • digitalbase 1 day ago
          There is no single approach as no central moderation exists. That's a feature.

          So it's to relay operators in combination with WoT (web of trust) on the client (and sometimes relays)

    • iamnothere 1 day ago
      Individual relay operators must detect and block it on their own. Same as Mastodon servers or other social platforms.

      Public relays take measures to deal with this. It was an issue early on, along with China spam.

    • cranberryturkey 15 hours ago
      Moderation happens at the relay level. So a relay operator would certainly ban someone posting CSAM content to their relay.
    • novemp 1 day ago
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  • dewey 1 day ago
    A website for people who don't want others to see their website.
  • bryanrasmussen 1 day ago
    as I'm understanding this - it would be useful for having your intranet sites available to everybody without a VPN as long as people used the extension - EXCEPT that anyone with the extension would be able to see YOUR intranet sites.

    That is to say one use case I can see would be that people could have the extension, log in, and get available the intranet published for that particular log in.

    That is to say unless I have totally misunderstood what it does, and my idea is idiotic, both of which are probably true.

    on edit: that is to say I say that is to say way too much because I'm used to having people misunderstand things I thought I said relatively clearly.

  • renshijian 1 day ago
    You're rebuilding trust online through decentralized identity. We're doing something fundamentally similar in AI: making machine honesty verifiable, not just trustworthy Our oracle system creates an "ethical black box" for AI conversations. If you believe transparency and verifiability are cornerstones of the digital future, perhaps our project resonates with you. I'd be happy to compare notes